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Manchester And Liverpool

Not for the first time in the past 20 years, Everton have signed a player (Louis Saha) from Manchester United who is struggling with fitness or form, or to keep a first team place – Norman Whiteside, Andrei Kanchelskis, Phil Neville and Tim Howard to name just four others.

Likewise, there have been Liverpool players in a similar position who have moved to Manchester City – Steve McMahon, Nigel Clough and Dieter Hamman to name just three.

I suppose if a player is leaving Manchester United or Liverpool, but wants to remain in a city in the north-west, he is more likely to move from Manchester United to Everton or Liverpool to Manchester City, rather than move to the other club in the same city.

While there have been players transferred from Liverpool to Everton, such as Gary Ablett, as well as from Everton to Liverpool, such as Abel Xavier, I cannot think of any transfer between the two Manchester clubs.

I’m trying to collate more examples.


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    Probably Denis Law was the most controversial – especially his City goal which relegated United.

    Denis Law is currently the most famous example of a player moving from United to City, but that was more than 30 years ago. I was looking at the last 20 years, and still can’t think of a single case.

    If there has been no transfer of players between United and City since 1974, perhaps the controversy surrounding Law’s move is the reason.

    Law had previously played for City before he went off to Torino and then United. Law’s transfer from Huddersfield Town to City in 1960 was for a then British record fee of £55,000. The record has just hit £32.5 million.

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    Three United legends have sat in the management seat at the Manchester clubs. Sir Matt Busby played for City but of course, famously managed United. Steve Coppell played at Old Trafford then (briefly) managed at Maine Road and of course, the current City manager Mark Hughes was a Manchester United hero.

    I am sure that there are many others (Billy Meredith perhaps? I’m not sure on that one but no doubt somebody out there will know!)

    Billy Meredith was one of four City players signed by United in 1906 (more than 100 years ago) while serving suspensions in a bribery scandal.

    United’s manager at that time, Ernest Mangnall, who guided United to their first successful spell, winning the title in 1908 and 1911 and the FA Cup in 1909, left United in 1912 to take over at City.

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    Peter Schmeichel?

    Schmeichel went from United to City via Sporting Clube de Portugal and Aston Villa.

    (First posted on Tony Kempster’s Non-League Forum)

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    Peter Barnes moved from United to City in 1987

    Interesting example.

    Like Law, Peter Barnes had an earlier spell with Manchester City. During his first spell, he scored in Man City’s 1976 League Cup victory and was voted Young Player Of The Year in the same year. He was a crowd favourite at Manchester City, wasn’t he – a young, talented goalscoring winger.

    I remember Man City fans weren’t too pleased by his transfer to WBA in 1979. This was Ron Atkinson’s WBA, which had consistently finished in the top third of the top flight for several years. Barnes replaced Laurie Cunningham, who had left to become the first British player to go to Real Madrid. It was an attacking WBA side, with Cyrille Regis upfront. Barnes actually finished WBA’s top scorer in 1979-80.

    If you’re a West Brom fan, you’ll enjoy this I guess.

    Barnes left WBA in 1981, after Ron Atkinson had left WBA for Manchester United.

    Barnes’ career went downhill from there, and he was already 28 when Ron Atkinson signed him again in 1985. He was brought in as a squad player at Manchester United, serving as cover for Jesper Olsen. (As an aside, Cunningham also had a spell with United under Ron Atikinson, on loan in 1983).

    In the above context, his transfer to City in 1987 was almost like returning home to the club where he had his best times.

    The way I see it, the two elements – that he wasn’t a first team regular at United, and his earlier affinity with City and its fans was always greater than his links with United – took it outside the usual disapproval of transfers directly between United and City.

    (Merger of two posts on Tony Kempster’s Non-League Forum – 1st & 2nd)

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    I was at that game – probably the best I’ve ever seen. Don’t think it will happen this season.

    Barnes was a crap winger at West Brom. The classic forward line was Cunningham, Regis and Willie Johnston. Those were the days…..

    There can’t be any other game in the top flight over the past 30 years that has produced 7 great goals. Only West Brom’s equalizer to make it 3-3 was a bit scrappy/flukey.

    Peter Barnes’ transfer from Man City to West Brom is one of those transactions in life in which no one benefits – Man City lost a talented young player who was popular with the fans, West Brom got a crappy player, and Barnes career went downhill from there.

    The same can be said of Laurie Cunningham’s transfer to Real Madrid.

    (First posted on Tony Kempster’s Non-League Forum)

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